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Clive Lloyd made his Test debut five decades ago. Kyle Schwarber Jersey . West Indies were in India and Lloyd, from Guyana, was 22. He was told he was playing in the first match 40 minutes before it started, in Bombay. It was the beginning of one of the most significant careers in modern cricket. Lloyd talks about the challenges of captaining a group of islands, the West Indies boards historic apathy, and the need to mentor young players.You didnt get much warning that you were about to play. Were you frightened? No, I wasnt. Id made a lot of runs in the Shell Shield - the first-class competition in the West Indies - and, in fact, a lot of people thought I would be going to England in 1966, but I wasnt chosen. Those were the days of bartering between the island selectors. You give me X and Ill give you Y. So I missed out.But by 67 I got to India and, by coincidence, Frank Worrell was there on a lecture tour. He said to me: Listen, you could have gone to England and been exposed to a moving ball to which youre unaccustomed. You could have got some low scores and it would have set you back. Anyhow, most of our great players start in India. Because it was Frank Worrell speaking, I accepted it.On the morning, 40 minutes before [the start], Seymour Nurse had hurt his hand in the nets, I think, and our captain, Garry Sobers, said, Youre in. That was as big a surprise as Id ever had. But the butterflies left because we fielded first. And when we came to bat, I did well - 82 and 78 not out in my first Test match, and they couldnt leave me out. Garry and I finished off the game. And that was the start.I had never seen spinners of this quality, of course. [Bhagwath] Chandrasekhar, Venkat [S Venkataraghavan]. So it was a bit of a test. And to add to that, I was playing in front of my idols: Conrad Hunte, Rohan Kanhai, Sobers. Looking back to that game, I guess the thing I reflect on now is that none of us were coached. Id never been coached. So you watched other people and worked out how they did things. You worked everything out by yourself. I had always been a very aggressive sort of player. We went to the nets, practised, and that was about it. You learned on the job.Did you ever think when you shared a dressing room with Sobers and Kanhai that one day you would succeed them as captain? Never. Although I do remember when we played against England in Jamaica in 68, we were in the Flamingo Hotel in Kingston and there was a saxophonist playing there one night and he said to me: Youll be captain of the West Indies one day. I had never thought that myself. Turned out he was a bit of a fortune teller.Being captain of the West Indies was difficult. England is one nation. India is one nation. We have a plethora of islands and different cultures and backgrounds. Barbados is not like Trinidad; Trinidadians are not like the Guyanese. The Guyanese are different to the Jamaicans. So to mesh all these men together, you have to get the trust of the players. Thats the first thing they think: Is he gonna fill this side with Guyanese? And, of course, this sort of trust can only be earned over time. Then the captain has to perform well. Because if you dont, the players will soon ask: How did he get here and why is he still here?My batting average for the first couple of years when I was captain was touching 70 [51.33]. They knew I was putting in the effort and that I would embarrass some of the guys into doing well. I also wanted to change some of the things that hadnt been done in the past. I wanted to help these players in the nets, for instance. So not only was I captain, I was the coach, the mentor. I had to be the disciplinarian, the tactician. It was not an easy job - especially at 27 years old! I was never groomed for the captaincy of the West Indies, I was simply given the captaincy.Did the West Indies Cricket Board help your captaincy or distract you from it? Well, I dont expect there was any other professional captain in the world who had to worry about his boards finances like I did. You know we were in the red when I first took over? You should know that the West Indies players have never been in awe of the board. Not for as long as Ive been around. Garry Sobers was once told by someone on the board, Of course, if your plane crashes today, Garry, well have to find a new captain. Now if your boss is speaking to you in those sorts of terms, youre not exactly going to be enamoured to him. So the players and the board were never great buddies. I should add that, despite this, we were always respectful of each other. But when we were winning, we had very little to do with the board. We hardly saw them. Only one of them ever used to call us and that was Allan Rae. He wanted to know how we were being treated, how big the gates [attendances] were, and that sort of thing, because he wanted to negotiate a better deal for us and for West Indies cricket.When you and your team left to play World Series Cricket in 1977, there were those who thought youd led a coup against the board. We had to be strong, thats for sure. When we made that decision we were emerging champions - World Cup holders and winning our Test matches. Sure, we did it for ourselves, but for other cricketers too. Before Kerry Packer came along, I had to pay for my own bat, trousers and boots. When I first played for the West Indies I had to pay for the badge to be put on my cap and the pocket crest for my blazer. People were happy to call me a great cricketer, a legend, but not pay me in a way that matched my ability. But the biggest thing about World Series Cricket was that it taught us to be winners. Winning was so important for us. Not only did it help get rid of insularity within the Caribbean, it meant we got paid better.What was the reaction in the West Indies to your success? When we were winning, the political leaders would send us telegrams. Michael Manley in Jamaica, Forbes Burnham in Guyana, Errol Barrow in Barbados. They were all there and they knew what we were doing. And they let it be known to us that our success as cricketers assisted their negotiating strength in their international politics. Because here were these guys representing less than six million people and we were champions of the world.So you think that the success of the cricket team assisted the political development of the region? Yes, I would say that. And I would say, too, that our success also inspired other black people. Black cricketers in South Africa have told me that our team gave them hope when they werent allowed to play. So I guess we created something that we didnt even know about. We had a following all over the world. Ordinary people everywhere. And by the mid-1990s, if you were a young West Indian, you would have lived your entire life and never seen us lose. Now thats quite something.And when you take all that in, you can see how my position as captain came with a huge responsibility. The prime minister of Trinidad only had to make decisions for the people of Trinidad, but I was making decisions for the whole of the West Indies. And for 11 years, the authorities didnt have to worry about finding a new captain. I cant recall any other captain whos around now who did 11 years, playing all over the world with a team in testing conditions. But we still produced the goods. We werent playing on many green flyers in India and Pakistan! Then you have to consider the standard of umpiring in world cricket back then. If wed have had the DRS system, our games would have finished in two days! (laughs) We had some of the worst umpires around, but we played through all of that.And in the quiet of a hotel room in the evenings, did that responsibility bear down on you? Not at all. Because I had grown into the job and I knew how important it was. When youre in a dressing room and you see Viv Richards wrap himself in the West Indies flag, and you see how we celebrated when we won, the high fives when we got a wicket, you were seeing something new in West Indian people. You never saw that in the old days. We had such an excellent unit. And much later, when I became the manager of the side, I wanted to bring that back, but by then there was a different breed of player. There was a different way of thinking. Unfortunately that harmony we engendered had been lost. No one begrudges the money these guys earn nowadays, but on top of that I dont want them to lose that feeling of pride that we had in playing for the West Indies.How do you feel about cricket in the West Indies today? Im sad, Im exasperated, Im angered about the situation, but I keep hoping. Many times I say to myself, It looks like weve turned that corner, but, well, its looking like a very long corner. All my hopes rest in our young cricketers, but we dont do enough talking to our young people. They need to have more mentoring from people who they can trust. Not just from people with a list of qualifications after their names, but from men who can tell them how they can get through difficult situations.But do young West Indians desire Test cricket? Or do they just want to play it as a way to make money from the one-day game? Well, Test cricket has to be an attractive proposition to West Indians. Its very different for a young English cricketer who dreams of playing for his country. We are people from islands and territories. Our experience has always taught us that we need to make as much money as we can as fast as we can. So I fully accept that these men have to be paid properly. But at the same time we have to have standards. There has to be a minimum requirement for our batsmen. You cant be averaging 20 in first-class cricket and be getting a year-long contract to play for the West Indies. Weve been lax on that in the past. We should want to play all our types of cricket in the same manner. We have to give our best one-day players a reason to come home when the T20 competitions are over. Our guys tend to stay away when the franchises are finished. Lets get them home. If were not working in unison with them, theyll never come home.Can you see a time where they may not be a West Indies Test side? I hope not. I think there are still quite a few people who want to play Test cricket, and people will watch if they see us trying to do well. People back winners in the West Indies, and thats why theyre backing the guys who are making money from T20 nowadays - because theyre doing well.Fifty years is a long time to be in the game. What is your single biggest regret, and what are you most proud of? My greatest disappointment is that some of our people dont recognise what we have achieved. There is a lingering disrespect and Im unhappy with that. We put in a huge amount of effort over many years and a lot of our past players havent been given enough recognition. They could have done a marvellous job for the West Indies, and had they done so, we probably wouldnt be in the abyss. Wed have been way up high.The thing I am most proud of is that we have moved forever from calypso cricket to fielding some of the best professional players youll ever meet. And weve done our people proud. We made great strides. We played cricket of the highest quality. Some people may not have liked it, but I noticed just the other day that the Australian coach, Darren Lehmann, said that he wanted his team to be like the West Indies of the 1980s, with four fast bowlers. People now like the look of that successful blueprint. There was nothing wrong with what we did.Our best team was in 1984, when we had four quick bowlers and the spinner Roger Harper. Terrific batting. Excellent wicketkeeping. Now, that was a balanced cricket side. Im the one that sorted that out. I showed people something. There had always been good fast bowlers, but I hit on an idea that worked. Any captain would want four fast bowlers. The Australians had them in 75, and 30 years later England had them to win the Ashes. But our guys were more consistent and played much longer. A lot of other people may not like what we achieved, but that is because we put them to shame. They had 60 million people or 250 million people. We had five million people and for 18 years we were champions. This was cricketing excellence - and it wasnt only down to the existence of four fast bowlers. We still had to bat. We still had to catch. I want people to give us credit for what we achieved.Youve been a drinks carrier, a player, a captain, a coach, a manager, a selector, an executive of the West Indies. Youre no longer the chairman of selectors now. Do you think that this is the end? Yeah, I think so. At 70-odd, I feel that I have done my lot. But if I was to mark my own report card, Id give myself a grade in the high 80s (smiles). I think Ive done well in all departments. I think Ive given great service to the game and I dont hate anybody. For my clubs and my country, Ive thoroughly enjoyed it all, and Id do it all again. You know, we were exciting. We played exciting cricket. We loved what we did and the people loved what we did. Billy Williams Jersey . There are surprises among the Vezina candidates, but most of the others are standard top-tier performers, even if the two Hart Trophy runners-ups have never been quite as good as they have been through the first half of the season. Kerry Wood Jersey . 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The PCA IS Bindra Stadium had hummed to Virat Kohli the last time he was here - an ODI against New Zealand - and could not believe what he was doing to Australia the time before that - at the World T20. There is hope that they would be just as interested in watching him perform as Indias Test captain, but it is not the strongest.There are other potential pick-me-ups for England, assuming they have looked at the data.M Vijay averages 43 when in the first Test of a series but it dips to 25.50 by the time the fourth arrives. Cheteshwar Pujara has a similar downward trend - 70.55 slips to 36.50. They have played only one five-match series before - against England in 2014 - and the sample is too small to indicate a trend. For the record though, Vijay averages 10 and Pujara 7.50 in the fifth Test of a series.Both men scored near-flawless hundreds in Rajkot. But in the first innings in Visakhapatnam, Vijay was bounced out in the fifth over. The surprise that had been in Englands eyes for the longest time had barged into his own as the new ball leapt up to take the glove and loop over to gully.A delivery at his throat would not be the first thing on a batsmans mind when the game is barely into its first half hour. Further still if the bowler was James Anderson, a man known to take his wickets with swing, seam and guile. But Vijay just wasnt ready for the ball that bested him even though it had pitched halfway down the pitch. While its line - right on off stump - was perfect, there is an argument that had Vijay been more alert to the length he might have dropped his wrists and swayed away. Instead, he tried to defend and the ball thudded into his top which was up around head height.This could well be reading too much into a batsman uundone by a good un before he could get set and Vijay has had his share of them in the recent past against New Zealand - two in the Kolkata Test and a rip-roaring catch at short leg in Indore - along with incidents like the second innings at Holkar Stadium where he did not put in a dive to prevent himself getting run-out. Brandon Morrow Jersey. A player of his caliber - the gift of timing, endless reserves of patience and shots all around the park - should have had a much better series by now. Culling out the minor carelessness in his game may well be the key.Pujara is a tad less easy to categorise as lax. He is, however, a nervous starter, especially against deliveries moving into him and it was Anderson again who exploited this weakness with a superb display of reverse swing in the second innings in Visakhapatnam. Twenty-six of his 62 dismissals are either bowled or lbw. Oppositions tend to take note of that and if conditions are such that there may be swing in the air - like in Mohali on a wintry morning - Pujara will have his work cut out. He probably would not have it any other way. Vijay too. Theyve beaten tough odds before.India do not often play lengthy Test series. Touring South Africa in 2013, their bowlers could not handle back-to-back Tests. The first they drew. The second and final they lost. In 2016, though, they outpaced West Indies quite handsomely over four matches. Well three, considering the rain and outfield in Trinidad. They held New Zealand off superbly at home and are living up to the standards they have set for themselves.Kohli is at the centre of this revolution. He thrives on any kind of pressure, whether it is making sure he scores because there are only five batsmen in the side or showing that pitches dont matter when you have intent or keeping his performances up. 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